June 8, 2011

Ask a Metalhead: losing my love of metal

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Dear Steff,

I’ve been having a problem lately that I feel you may be able to help me with. Lately I just haven’t been able to like METAL like I used to, and yet, it’s still all that I think about.

I was just at a great Symphony X show and I just couldn’t seem to have fun. I think perhaps a part of me is worried about getting hurt and another part of me thinks maybe the love is gone forever.

I’ve been more into Punk, but even then I just can’t get the same love that I had when I first discovered it. I’ve tried branching out to different things and genres, but now I just can’t seem to like music really at all. Now that I play bass it seems like all I want to do is play bass and I think maybe it’s not fun anymore because I want to be the guy on the stage instead.

I really don’t want to lose this love because it’s been the only thing that’s been here for me constantly and I also worry that my best friend and I only are friends because of METAL and I don’t want to lose him either .

Any advice would be super appreciated.


What? Going off metal? That’s downright disgraceful! You should hang your head in shame!

Kidding :) Seriously, though, I think you’re worrying too much.

I actually get quite a few emails along a similar vein to this, and Odin knows I feel like this sometimes, too, especially because I write about metal 3-5 days a week. So here are my thoughts on why we might get sick of metal and what we can do to rejuvenate our warrior spirits.

I think you’re oversaturated.

nick cave

It’s as if you ate chocolate with every meal. After a while, it stops being a special treat and starts becoming routine. It becomes mundane, ordinary, and, before you know it, every piece of chocolate starts to sound the same.

Think about it. You love something like metal with such intensity you spend hundreds, if not thousands, or hours researching metal, listening to music, going to shows, talking to other metalheads, reading blogs like mine, writing a blog of your own, adding reviews to Metal Archives, debating on music forums … until you’ve acquired what could only be described as an encyclopaedic knowledge of this wonderful music. It’s as if you’re studying for a P.hD in Metallology – that’s how intense this quest for knowledge can become.

Have you seen P.hD students in their last year? They are insane. After 3-7 years of studying the same subject with increasing intensity, they start to second guess everything. All their brilliant ideas suddenly become pudding. Their oh-so-clever supervisor suddenly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. They stare at the pages of books but the words don’t seem to form coherent thoughts. They close their eyes to sleep at night and all they see are Ancient Greek vases … and suddenly, the very thing they love is haunting them, and they wish it would just go away.

Sound familiar?

Luckily, you are not a Phd student. You don’t have a deadline looming or thousands of dollars of funding riding on you getting an A in metal. You can stop whenever you want. And that’s exactly what I think you should do.

Just stop.

Don’t force yourself to listen to metal if you don’t feel like it – that’s not going to help you love it again. If a band you love comes to town and you’re not excited about it, don’t go. If your mate’s heard this band you just have to listen to, give them a spin once, but if you’re not feeling it, don’t push it.

Stop reading the magazines, stop visiting the forums, stop worrying about not knowing all the latest bands.

Just stop.

If it’s truly part of who you are, it will come back. You might not ever be as intense about it as you once were, but that’s OK. I know plenty of people who consider themselves metalheads and only buy one new album every six months, or see one show or attent one festival every year or two. These people love the music just as much as me, but it’s not the focal point of their lives, and that’s cool.

Our tastes change and morph as we grow older. It’s possible you just don’t love metal as much as you used to. It’s equally possible you’ve simply reached saturdation point and you need a break. Maybe you’re just tired of putting in the effort to keep up with the latest bands?

Just stop.

You will wake up one morning craving an Iron Maiden record, or dying to hear what Vreid or Katyklysm are up to. Metal will become something special again, if you give yourself a break, allow yourself time to remember how it used to make you feel.

I write a metal blog, and I don’t listen to metal all of the time. I listen to metal maybe 40%-50% of the time. Sometimes I’m just not in the mood. The rest of the time I’m listening to Nick Cave, or other gothy indie stuff, or girly pop-rock music, or classical, or English folk, or nothing at all.

Maybe you’re simply listening to too much music. Maybe you need a bit of silence to balance out all the noise.

As for your own music, I think you should keep playing, but play for yourself. Play because you enjoy it. Write your own songs if you’re not already, and don’t worry if they’re metal or punk or whatever, just write them. You can fit them in a genre later.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard was from my husband. He says “Too many bands say “We want to play like Iron Maiden” and so they go out and listen to Maiden, and even though they’re good musicians, all they put out are watered-down, uninspired Maiden copies. If you want to play like Iron Maiden, you have to listen to the bands that inspired them.” One of his favourite bands is Jethro Tull, and he taught himself to play the flute so he could do an Ian Anderson-style metal band, but he doesn’t just listen to Jethro Tull – he listens to the jazz flautists who Ian Anderson listened to. If you think you need new music to inspire you, then search for the music that inspired your idols. Often you’ll find it’s jazz musicians, old crooners, little known sixties bands and psychedelic weird shit.

The great thing about music is that it’s around forever. Metal will still be waiting for you when you’re ready for it again.

Readers, weigh in with your own thoughts? Do you ever feel like you’re sick of metal? What do you do to bring back the spark again?

34 Comments on “Ask a Metalhead: losing my love of metal

'Metal' Dave Wakeham
November 22, 2016 at 3:49 pm

ARE WE ALL STILL HERE ??? Just checking in to see lol.

Well, this interesting article was FOUR years ago and I wonder what has changed…or REVIVED.

Well with me I tend to change here there and everywhere with my musical taste but MOSTLY it falls within the realms of pre-thrash CLASSIC influences like Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, Saxon, Motorhead, Discharge, The Exploited, Venom, Accept, Mercyful Fate which is usually whenever I need more inspiration for writing my kind of riffs and songs, because I still love to PLAY thrash metal in my own band and try to create my own stamp on it, OR, if I listen else where it would just be more DIVERSITY.

I listen to prog rock, other classic rock, NWOBHM, hardcore, thrash, death metal, modern metal, other forms of extreme metal too, I DON’T really listen to EVERY band in EVERY sub-genre, I just listen to whatever I feel is a GOOD BAND regardless of what they are classed as which I have little concern about when I LIKE certain music.

Other times I will listen to Gregorian Chant and Classical music if I need to break things up MORE.

I wouldn’t worry about the preference of PLAYING music as opposed to LISTENING to it as I often find out whenever I meet well known musicians in bands hanging out after gigs etc because they say simmular things, it’s either OLD BANDS, a SMALL amount of the LATEST bands, or not much at all especially when they are BUSY.

January 10, 2017 at 1:51 pm

@”Metal” Dave: Hey, hey. I’m still here (I’m always here).

That’s a very good point. I think a lot of us fall back on our favourites again and again and again, which is not a bad thing at all. I know I definitely mostly listen to the same stuff over and over, because I know now exactly what artist is need at any given time, and then occasionally add a new band or two to the mix when something really grabs me. When I was younger I was much more concerned with discovering ALL OF THE THINGS. :)

PS. You have great taste!
September 2, 2016 at 5:43 pm

my reaction of course was to giggle and i asked why? she said well i dont like metal . maybe it has something to do with cleanliness. i dont know.

October 18, 2013 at 8:18 pm

Hey guys. I was scowering the internet (since I dont know who else to turn to) in search of blogs like this, & I desperately need some advice. Im 18 years old, a bass player of 3 years & a passionate metal fan of more than 8 years. Growing up, I spent all of my time trying to be more brutal than everyone else, which wasnt hard considering Im the only metalhead in my town, but even so, I was stubborn & felt I had to prove that I was the baddest dude around. I always sport the typical metal gear, vambraces & all, go to every show that comes around & I can name Judas Priest’s catalog in under 10 seconds. However, due to recent changes in my life, I finally realized that metal wasnt the most important thing in life, I realized that being the most metal person you know isnt going to get you a job, pay bills, get a girlfriend etc. Furthermore, from a musicians perspective, I began to realize the importance of other styles of music, as metal isnt a bass friendly genre. I began to look up jazz, funk & everything else that was the opposite of metal, & dont get me wrong, I love it, but my dilemma is this…
No matter what I do, I always have the urge to plunge back into my old ways, to blow my money on shows, t shirts & records rather than keep a good track record. The IRONIC part of this whole comment is that IVE LOST MY PASSION FOR METAL. I only listen to it & go to shows & wear the shirts because I feel like I have to: I have nothing else to turn to. Its my “identity.” Its almost like an addiction. I want to quit (or at least cut down) but I get upset, even violent if I dont hear metal. Its a vicious circle, & still i continue to lose my passion for metal. When I think about giving it up, I think about giving up playing bass, listening to jazz, quitting bass lessons, or giving up applying to Berklee College of music. I feel lost without metal, like I have nothing else in my life, but its doing me more harm than good at this point. Not to mention Ive invested hundreds of dollars in gear, cds, clothe, shows & music lessons.
So my questions are these: How can I maintain a balance of metal & other styles of music while still finding passion in both?

What other clothes could I wear other than 2 year old band shirts?

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated, as this is a major crisis on my life. I know it may sound overdramatic, but its a matter of finding my identity, my place as a young man, & setting my priorities straight without giving up or destroying aspects of my life. Thank you all in advance.

November 6, 2013 at 11:54 am

Devyn, I’d love to talk with you about what you have written. I have some advice and thoughts I think you’d be happy to read. Can you post your email here? I will write to you soon. :)

Joshua Russell
October 27, 2012 at 7:30 pm

What I mean is, the media encourages one to live your life vicariously through other people. For example, Trey Azagthoth or Bob Marley. Once you can do your own thing, these impulses are no longer needed.

August 13, 2011 at 1:38 pm

I have felt the same way, BUT , it seems mood has to warrant a good healthy dose of metal at times. When I’m on my way to work I favor a more positive happy look on the day that I am going to slave on so I listen to Owl City or something gay like that, or some reggae, sets my mood from wanting to destroy a city to wanting to make mine better. But latey, i have been listening to a lot of country and political talk radio. I sometimes think it has to do with age, experience and overall environment. I have kids and I don’t see myself dressing in the same metal garb i used to , although I sport more the hardcore way but even then, i look like a surfer, i don’t want to look like the guy who still lives in the late 90’s trying to stay on top of the Metal scene because it makes me look younger. I have been listening to Reggae lately and have now been recruited into a Reggae band playing bass because, well, where I live I have no such luck in trying to form a good original metal band or people who to form a serious band with, beings here, most all musicians are young and immature and want to just play AvengeSevenfold/Trivium/NormaJean, shit, sure its cool to listen to but I don’t want to conform to a one style because everybody and their grandma is playing it in my town. Above all in my case, my reason could be is the phase of adulthood and because I have a fulltime job and kids I tend to feel taking care of priorities comes first before playing/listening to metal, I guess. But then again, when lifting weights, I need the blood pumping sounds of my favorite sounds of Messhuggah, Crowbar, Suffocation, Bloodlet, Pantera, AbomidableIronSloth, etc.

August 16, 2011 at 9:07 pm

@eggdogg – I think this is so true – sometimes, metal suits certain parts of your life, but not others. And wearing metal clothes / being part of the scene can be really awesome, but it’s not for everybody, and it is mostly a young-people thing. You definitely can’t hang out at local shows all the time if you’ve got kids!

I have never been into reggae, but then, I’ve never heard any good reggae. Recommendations?

August 5, 2011 at 1:54 am

[QUOTE=Steff] …… but can you recommend some good industrial? This is a genre I’d love to explore further. [/QUOTE]

Steff, since very strangely, the posts here don’t have a dateline (it’s so necessary), I obviously can’t tell how long ago you had requested for ‘industrial rock/metal’ recommendations. Anyway, since I saw this I wanted to help you out on this:

Unlike many metalheads, I’ve always enjoyed a few industrial acts quite a lot.

My absolute favourite is MINISTRY. Killer discography and mandatory hearing for anybody wanting a serious sampling of incendiary industrial music. Too bad and sad, that the band has…well…disbanded. : (

Also, SYL (Strapping Young Lad), NIN (Nine Inch Nails), Godflesh, are some of the others that I’ve enjoyed, to differing degrees.

And oh, how can I forget Fear Factory and their scorching industrial-inflected extreme metal albums (i.e. all their albums following their devastating death metal debut disc, The Soul of a New Machine).

Hope this was of some help. :)

August 4, 2011 at 5:13 am

I’m currently 34, and have been an extreme metal die-hard for the past eighteen years. Despite having a relatively huge collection of Metal albums, and buying new metal releases, all year round, every year, I just can’t see myself ever getting truly “sick” of Metal.

I’ve known several people, though—-good friends and fellow metalheads—who feel somewhat similarly to what the original poster here describes as his rapidly waning desires for metal music. I guess this sort of thing can, and does happen. Sometime peer pressure among fellow fans can be a real source of anxiety and a kill-joy. If you constantly feel pressured into knowing and liking all the supposedly ‘real deal’ acts and ace albums that your best friends (some snobbish metal elitists among them) say they dig, I reckon it can be one factor leading to Metal-fatigue, as it were.

There’s also the common, corny jibe (from critics and non-fans) about metal-mania being a mere “phase” that soon passes, once a guy grows older and learns to love “real music” . As if Metal is the sole refuge and obsession of testosterone-fueled, over-adrenalized young males. Lame stereotypes and simplistic generalizations apart, I can only speak for myself when I say that there are many fans like myself who simply don’t get “over-saturated” with Metal to the point of boredom and loss of passion, despite the genre clearly dominating our musical tastes and precious money and time spent buying albums and listening to them. Maybe, it’s been easier for me to keep my devotion to Metal alive and thriving, because I love (and routinely listen to) quite a variety of metal out there, namely brutal/tech dm, thrash, grindcore, ‘crossover’, sludge metal, some black metal, ‘alternative’ metal, and I also love a lot of Hardcore and punk rock music. I have several other passions and pastimes, but Metal remains a cornerstone of my life. I

Anyhow, I think Steff is mostly right about her advice to the OP to not needlessly feel any guilt, anxiety or pressure to keep apace with Metal, if he simply isn’t getting a kick out of it anymore. To just ‘stop’ for a while might just be a great way to wipe the slate clean in a sense, and perhaps start over again sometime in the future when the guy’s desire for Metal would hopefully be rekindled—and he can decide, on his own terms, to listen to and fully enjoy the ceaseless supply of quality Metal that will undoubtedly be available forever. :)

July 1, 2011 at 12:11 pm

I’ve felt like this ALOT recently, I’m still feeling that way. I’ve listened to all my CDs a thousand times, and my computer has no sound, so I can’t look up Metal I’ve never heard. I’ve been getting more into opera lately, but Metal is all I think about. I’ll be willing to give it a break, but last time I did that with something I loved, I never got into it again. So I’m really worried about it, but if stopping is really the key, I’ll try it.

June 29, 2011 at 5:02 pm

I feel like this sometimes, kinda lately even. I just got my husband into real metal, and ever since then, its’ been so repetative. I take breaks listening to reggae, punk, and older kinds of music. Hell, even lady gaga occasionally rofl. But none the less, metal has always been my passion, and it always comes back to me like a living dead lover. <3

June 16, 2011 at 11:51 am

it all depends on oneself ..i have been listening to metal from past 8 years and every time i listen to it .. the feelings within me gets electrified and i start headbanging .. i mostly listen to old school death and thrash metal and i never get bored of it ,infact it makes me feel stronger and i dont give a damn to those people who piss me off in daily life .it has played a major role to keep me mentally strong ..and only Heavy Metal lyrics can make such things possible .
one more thing i would like to say is that Heavy Metal music has great diversity and its followed world wide ,trust me its not the same shit as people say Im from India and Metal scene here is growing day by day .. you can listen to whatever sub genre you want in metal and Heavy Metal itself is a sub genre of Rock music so you can listen to classic rock ,psychedelic rock,swamp rock and many more of it anytime … dire straits,pink floyd,CCR,eric clapton are my favourite classic rock bands … heavy metal inspired by ROCk ..ROCK music inspired by Blues and they took inspiration from JAZZ music .. personally im not into blues and jazz .. i just like to listen Classic Rock and Heavy Metal .. if im sad i listen to Metal and if im happy i listen to Metal ..and i listen to classic rock everyday in the morning so that has kept me goin .. Heavy Metal is truely the philosophy of my life .. Keep Metal Faith Alive

June 27, 2011 at 8:06 pm

\m/ Metaltilldeath \m/ Yes! I love the diversity in metal, and that, no matter where you go in the world, you can find bands and fans who share your passion. I’ve been listening to metal for over ten years now – my husband for over 20 – and we’ll never lose our love for it. It’s part of who we are. Although I do have times when I don’t listen to much metal, or I want something a little calmer. But it’s true what you say – I always turn to metal songs when I need cheering up!
June 10, 2011 at 4:35 pm

I feel your pain. I teach guitar (Metal Guitar really) and I listen to metal, (myself, my students, my fav bands) maybe too much. Your saving grace will be playing your bass. To really “Love” Metal, you have to MAKE SOME! Exploring Music/Metal from behind an instrument is an eternal journey well worth taking. It will resurrect your love of Music, your love of Metal, and I”m guessing, your Love of Living. Nothing beats playing music. Nothing.


June 15, 2011 at 4:29 am

That’s quite profound, Todd, thanks! I play very little music, but what little I do know has definitely brought out a new appreciation of how seriously awesome all musicians are!

June 10, 2011 at 1:58 pm

This is definitely something I experience from time to time, and I would second all of your advice. I’m not huge on the music scene – I don’t research a lot, I don’t frequent forums – but I do attend plenty of shows and listen to metal about 50% of the time. But if I’m feeling sick of it, I just go listen to something else I love, or better yet, try to find something new and in a completely different vein that I haven’t heard yet to give my brain a little jog. Always helps!

June 10, 2011 at 12:34 am

Steff – you’re seeing Jethro Tull in Germany?? AAARGH – JEALOUS!

June 15, 2011 at 4:30 am

I know! I’m jealous of me, too! Hopefully it actually happens this time. We tried to see them in the UK in 2009, but it was a huge disaster. Some horse farmer in the middle of chav-ville STILL has my ticket money. Grrr.

June 9, 2011 at 6:45 pm

I went through this same thing recently…about 6 months ago I found my interest in metal waning. So I started listening to other styles of music…hell sometimes even nothing at all. Then about two weeks ago I went to MDF 2011…4 days of awesome metal bands. My love of metal was totally renewed after that.
So basically do what everyone else is saying…take a break…do something else..try some other styles of music like jazz or the blues. Then come back to metal in a couple months. Your interest will return

June 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm

I feel that way every so often. Sometimes the sound of music NOT playing is the best sound in the world! Every once in a while i just have to take a break from the never-ending auditory assault of metal. Because thats 95% of what i listen to. Im pretty narrow minded about music…….

June 15, 2011 at 4:33 am

Dylan – being narrow minded is just another way of saying “I know what I like. Now fuck off”. I find most metal doesn’t work with writing – I can write my blogs and listen to metal, and I always make up a soundtrack for my novels, but all my client work needs silence or sometimes instrumental compositions by weird Finnish dudes.

June 9, 2011 at 4:52 pm

I actually got into metal when I was burnt out on another genre entirely: industrial. It was a slow evolution. I told myself “I’m sick of the pounding dance beats. I’m starting to get headaches.” So I started by switching to older Goth Rock and Death Rock music. Bands like Alien Sex Fiend and Revolting Cocks. I just wanted to hear some guitars. Then my boyfriend said, “I think you might like this metal band. They aren’t quite Cradle of Filth but I still think you’ll like it.”

That was the first time I heard Rotting Christ. Then I found out about Arch Enemy and Gorgoroth and from there out it was metal all the time. The more extreme and brutal the better. Ripping solos? I was all over it. Now I’m at a place where I just like music again. I can listen to my old Industrial music and not have to bother trying to keep up with the new stuff (which I mostly don’t like). Same goes for metal. If I’ve listened to Amon Amarth for a while I’ll throw in some Siouxie and the Banshees to lighten up my ear. The heavy stuff is always sweetly awaiting my return. :)

June 15, 2011 at 4:41 am

Euphoria – I might have asked this before, but can you recommend some good industrial? This is a genre I’d love to explore further.

June 9, 2011 at 3:33 pm

I’ve been really into a lot of instrumental stuff like Godspeed You! Black Emperor and Mogwai lately. It makes really good background music for whenever I’m working on something and need to focus.

June 15, 2011 at 4:47 am

Godspeed are awesome. I really need to get more of their stuff.

June 9, 2011 at 3:24 pm

I really started feeling this way starting in January. I’d been really into thrash metal and some of the older death metal since my junior year in high school (junior in college now so go figure), and I found myself in a bit of a dilemma. On the one hand a lot of the osdm and thrash I’d been listening to didn’t really appeal that much anymore and on the other hand more contemporary bands like Decapitated, Nile and Behemoth left me feeling cold.

Something that helped me to at least begin resolving this conflict was setting aside the idea that “I am a metalhead and therefore I must listen to metal”. I put away all of my metal stuff; cd’s, t-shirts, posters, etc.; and started to work on recreating my identity, how I wanted to present myself to the world. As I slowly start to get things out again I find that I’ve grown as a person and that while there are bands like Death, Atheist, or Cynic that I love almost unconditionally; the crushing brutality of bands like Cryptopsy and Suffocation doesn’t really move me anymore…. and that’s ok.

At first its harder because you have so much of your ego invested in being “metal”, but once you can set that aside it seems to get a lot easier.

Rob Liz
June 9, 2011 at 11:53 am

Yeah it’s burnout and it’s common. I can relate because I write for a blog and I find myself listening to more music then I ever used too. So like Steff said, a break can be needed and welcome. I’ve been listening to metal on and off since the early 80’s. And there have been periods of years where I stepped away because it got to be too much and mundane. And then a few years later I go back to it and it’s fresh and cool again. There is always the danger of never coming back like for example I just got reconnected with an old high school friend who never kept up with stuff after high school. Which is disappointing because he was the one that turned me onto alot of bands. But now he’s excited to se whats out there too and I get to now be the teacher. So the break can be a year or it can be decades but it’s not something to really worry about either.

June 9, 2011 at 12:05 am

Silence can be golden. My mp3 player has broken so I don’t listen to music while walking anymore and I used to turn on my list of tunes as soon as I got home but now I find myself typing in silence. It’s just because I don’t feel like it anymore but I still truly love music.

Also, gotta love that psychedelic weird shit that inspired some of the greatest bands.

June 9, 2011 at 12:50 am

@Imy – I never listen to music while I’m walking. I hate blocking out the world when I’m outside – plus, I have to listen for the traffic. I find I get more thinking done when I’m not listening to music. I have silence all morning, because that’s my uber productive working time. In the afternoon I get sleepy and listening to music helps me to keep working. At night we normally put on music and read in the lounge together :)

Have you heard Wishbone Ash? They’re our new favorite. We’re going to see them (and Jethro Tull, finally!) in Germany!

June 9, 2011 at 12:01 am

I’m actually feeling the same way lately, but I think I put it down to UNDERsaturation. Most of my favourite bands have released or are about to release albums this year but they’ve been largely disappointing (… not very metal). I’ve been listening to Lady Gaga and Robyn more than metal! I know it’ll pass, but it’s very frustrating when it happens. I appreciate this blog.

Also, I know someone who has actually at the tail end of his PhD in “Metallology” and he seems fine, so I approve of that analogy! :)

June 9, 2011 at 12:47 am

@Nellie – is that the dude at Waikato doing psychology … he seemed pretty down-to-earth – definitely can’t imagine him in a panic!

Lady Gaga is awesome. I love Bad Romance and Alejandro. I would love to see her live one day – reckon that would be an amazing show.

October 25, 2012 at 4:55 am

This is a brilliant article !

I myself am very big on thrash metal and I have been for…getting on for the best part of a qaurter of a century now .

In the last two years I found myself bored or ‘numb’ to it , so what I do is diversify with other stuff.

As it happens I’ve always been a huge fan of rock bands and punk bands for many years . When I was a small child ( between 6 and 10 ) I listened to my mum’s Beatles records and my uncle would play loads of punk rock singles , as I got a bit older (11-13) I listened to Queen , Kiss , Van Halen , Whitesnake and Iron Maiden . Also my mum’s friends the same age realised I was getting into it so they’d lend me tapes of Black Sabbath , Thin Lizzy , AC/DC etc.

Thirteen years ago my mum met a new partner who just loves his 1970s rock and progressive Jethro Tull , Curved Air , King Crimson and the like . He started coverting all his records to CDs and gave me most of his collection because he knew I loved it ! Listening to these bands opened my keen ears to other musical styles too .

The above is what I always refer to when I tire of thrash ( apart from still listening to the classics Exodus / Slayer / Overkill ).

After two years of diversifying with rock / metal …I now want to thrash it up again !!!!

Joshua Russell
October 27, 2012 at 12:19 am

I tend to agree, the more instrumentation and stuff you can do the more it becomes a focus for your life.

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